NH OUTLOOK, Monday, 3/24/2003
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Hello. I'm Allison McNair. Welcome to NH Outlook.
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As the war against Iraq unfolds before our eyes, audiences around the world have been taken to the frontlines while remaining in their living rooms. For many of our young people, this is a time of discovery, fear and discussion. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a high school classroom to see how a social studies teacher and his students there are viewing the war and what they are thinking as they watch.
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Sound of class room discussion
Narr 1 - Welcome to room 108 at Somersworth High School.
Sound from Terry and students
Narr 2 - These are junior and senior social studies students. Terry Dostie is their teacher.
Sound of Terry asking series of quick questions to students
Terry clip 2540 - "I'm a facilitator and a comforter. I want to make sure that they realize it is ok to disagree with people and have their own opinions. I try to teach them to be tolerant of others, but to have viewpoints of their own as well and be active participant in democracy."
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Narr 3 - Discussions in Terry's class are fluid. One thought leads to another. This is a place where it's not only safe to debate the teacher, but it's welcomed.
Student talks about support of the war
Dianne 1945 - "I like the open forum format. We are all free to speak and we all listen. These are issues that seem relevant to me, they are things that we will experience and in Terry's class he tries to make us informed citizens."
Terry - 2555- "I don't allow them to be lazy - I don't want them believing that the guy in the 3-piece suit they see on TV knows more than they do."
Sound of Terry asking about what they hear from media
Brian 1805 "Over the past little while, we've been talking a lot about censorship and the rights of the minority to speak freely, such as the KKK."
Denis 2030 "And it has come at such an interesting time in this country - people are exercising their rights to speak. This is only class I have where we are allowed to express what our opinion is."
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Denis 2110 - " It's important because we learn we all have those rights."
Narr 4 - For these junior and senior students, Terry doesn't shy away from provocation.
Terry 2610 - " I like to be the devil's advocate. I try to keep my opinions a mystery for a while. All these students know they are going to be called on to - and they know it's not about being right or wrong, it's about having opinions and being able to back those opinions up with facts."
Dianne 2144 - ' It makes you think more when someone is in your face. It's easy to believe something without having facts, but here need to have your facts ready."
Brian - "I think it produces a good learning environment."
Narr 5- Megan Dubois' father is currently serving with the military in the middle- east.
Megan 2250 - " I see the issues from a different platform than the other students. I'm effected directly when my father goes to fight somewhere. It effects me because I can't speak to him and I can't do what others can do with their fathers."
Narr 6 - For ninety minutes, these students have been challenged to think about their world. Terry's hope is that they'll leave class as better citizens.
Terry 2805 - " I want them to think about what talked about. Take it with them - debate it at home and with friends and look at critically at issues. Not to take everything at face value. I want them to become more thinking Americans."
Narr 7 - For NH Outlook, I'm Phil Vaughn.
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Last week, two days before the first shots were fired in Iraq, a decorated soldier from New Hampshire visited the state. Major Donald Bolduc, originally from Laconia, now serves as Aide de camp to the Secretary of the Army. He enlisted in the United States Army in 1981 and has served all over the globe. He spoke on a variety of topics with Richard Ager, including how the army has changed over the past two decades.
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Bite: Bolduc tape 1 14:14:20 The army has adjusted. For instance, it has changed its recruitment theme from what I grew up under - be all you can be - to an army of one. Which is an excellent recruitment tool for the type of soldier that we're recruiting today. Put it this way: at first, I didn't know how that whole recruitment scheme was going to go. And then somebody said 'hey Don, we're not trying to recruit you. We already have you. We're trying to recruit a different kind of youngster, a youngster who has grown up - I can't play a Nintendo game for a darn. But these youngsters - they can multitask themselves, they can do this with their hands, they can use a screen - and that's the type of technology that we have out there and those are the types of kids that we're trying to recruit.
Bite: Bolduc tape 1 14:10:40 My first tour was in Korea and I knew at that time that I wanted to be a special forces officer and serve with the great men of the Green Berets. Another time in my life when that movie was released, I remember watching it with my grandfather. And of course John Wayne has impacted a lot of Americans' lives over the years and that movie was a great recruitment tool for me and it's something I've always wanted to do so when I was eligible as a first lieutenant, I joined special forces and I've been with them ever since 1992. My service has included Grenada, the Persian gulf, numerous contingencies in the Persian Gulf as a result of all the things going on right now, trying to minimize and mitigate the influence that Saddam Hussein has in that area, and more recently, in Afghanistan.
Bite: Bolduc tape 1 14:16:55 We weren't going into Bagdad last time. When you go into a built-up area such as Bagdad, urban combat, you have to secure the outside of that and secure your routes into it before you can do anything else. Urban combat is very complex, very dangerous. And so those considerations are going to drive just a little bit different approach to the warfare. But other than that, there's not going to be much of a difference. We have the same equipment, better technology, and we certainly have the best soldiers executing it.
Bite: Bolduc tape 1 14:17:38 I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN, HAMID KARZAI. YOU WERE INVOLVED IN HIS REINTRODUCTION INTO THE COUNTRY EARLY ON. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
14:17:50 Yes sir. In November of 2001, I was part of a small unit that was given the mission to be part of Hamid Karzai's primary military advisors. This included a campaign from Terrenkaout which is about 70 miles north of Kandahar. Hamid Karzai was reintroduced into the country as a leader in the south. He's from southern Afghanistan - he's a Pashtun by ethnicity, and very well-respected. It was clear after meeting the man that his greatness in Afghanistan was just beginning. A wonderful man to be around - a man sincerely concerned about the health and welfare of the people in his country - and we were there to guide him in military operations and provide him with the technology the United States had in order to defeat the Taliban and Al Queda and secure Kandahar. Kandahar was considered to be the religious center of gravity of the country. A lot of important things associated with infrastructure in Afghanistan - Kandahar centers around - so it was important. It was important to validate him in the eyes of his countrymen as a war fighter. I liken it to the George Washington syndrome. A man willing to fight for his country - put his own life on the line in order to demonstrate his own resolve and commitment to the freedom of Afghanistan - the eventual freeing of that country from Al Queda and the Taliban.
14:19:40 SO YOU WERE INSPIRED BY BEING WITH HIM, WERE YOU?
14:19:43 I was very much inspired by being with him. He's intelligent, articulate, caring, believes in freedom, liberty, justice. Believes in democracy. You cannot - it's hard not to be inspired by guys like that. And believe it or not, we enjoyed common ground in our conversations. And I knew almost immediately - by that time had been in special forces for 10 years and I knew - had been involved in and had enough exposure in that region to be able to judge somebody in that manner.
14:20:34 IN EXECUTING YOUR DUTIES AT THAT TIME, WERE YOU ONE OF THE SOLDIERS THAT ENDED UP LOOKING LIKE AFGHANS? Yes. WHAT WAS YOUR DRESS - HOW DID YOU LOOK? I was in military uniform, the only time we got out of military uniform was when the mission dictated. But we did have relaxed grooming standards. I had a beard and of course your hair grew a bit longer. Our leadership made this decision - made a really good decision because right up front, a lot of the comments we got from them were 'you, the American military, coming in here to Afghanistan, is a lot different than a lot of the other militaries that have come in to our country telling us they want to help us. You have taken the extra step. You live with us, you eat the same food, you attempt to learn our language, you grow your beards' - because that's a sign of manhood there. They don't have beards because they're religious fanatics. They have beards as a sign of manhood and a source of pride. And because we took those extra steps to fit in and not present ourselves as an occupation army, we found we built really fast credibility with them, and our rapport building was - it was conducive to building rapport.
Bolduc tape 1 14;22:21 WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE THE LESSONS FROM THE WAY WE CONDUCTED THE CAMPAIGN IN AFGHANISTAN THAT WE SHOULD LOOK TO AS WE FACE THE SITUATION IN IRAQ?
14:22:30 A lot of people want to take Afghanistan and pull it out and use it as an example of a different type of warfare. Really, it was not a different type of warfare. We varied our tactics and procedures but what remained constant was physical training, something our soldiers do on a daily basis and something soldiers everywhere in every conflict have relied on - physical toughness. The second thing was our medical skills. The training we got in medical skills helped us help ourselves, help the Afghans. The third thing was - basic army training. Small unit tactics. Well-grounded, shoot, move and communicate skills. And marksmanship. Those four things allowed us to be successful in Afghanistan - and in every other battlefield before Afghanistan and into future battlefields.
Bolduc tape 2 14:29:27 AS WE LOOK TO A REGIME CHANGE AND AN OCCUPATION OF IRAQ WHICH HAS ALSO BEEN DESCRIBED AS A TRIBALIZED SOCIETY, DO YOU THINK WE'LL SEE A SIMILAR DYNAMIC - IN OTHER WORDS, A LONG TIME TO SEE THAT CHANGE AS YOU NOTED IN AFGHANISTAN?
14:29:48 Sir, nation building is a complicated and long-term process. I am not involved in the planning nor in a position to comment on that because none of our national leaders have laid out a plan yet. They have a plan I am confident of that. BUT YOU'VE SEEN IT ON THE GROUND AND YOU HAVE SENSED WHAT GOES ON. Iraq is not as devastated a country as Afghanistan. So it's not going to take as long, and we're not going to have to build up the infrastructure like we have to in Afghanistan. For example, when we got into Kandahar, there was no electricity. One of the first things we had to do was assess that. And assess not only that but all the other infrastructure and rebuild it. There was barely any houses standing. Every town I had been in had been devastated. The only things that had not been touched were the mosques and some of the headquarters buidings the Taliban and Al Queida had used. They had some training camps - those were really the only buildings that were standing. What the people lived in was despicable. The way the children lived and women were treated was despicable, not unlike what is going on in Iraq. But the infrastructure is not as bad and they have a commodity called oil and they have revenues from oil that will assist them. In Afghanistan, they didn't even have that.
Bolduc tape 2 14:35:18 WHAT SHOULD AMERICANS UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE FIGHT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW?
14:35:27 The nature of war hasn't changed. It's brutish, it's tough. The psychological impact it has on our young men and women is significantly high. But what I think the American people should know is that our country is headed in a direction and we are there. And one of the greatest things I love about this country is the freedom that we have to voice our opinions. In favor of and in dissent. But we're at a period of time now where our soldiers - our young soldiers, men and women who have been charged over there on the front line, and God knows I wish I was with them instead of riding a desk at the Pentagon, are getting ready to fight, and we need their whole-hearted support. And their support will carry the day for these soldiers. Any conflict we are in relies on three things: the government, the military and the people moving in the same direction.
And we will fight and die for everybody's right to voice their opinion, but now, we're approaching closely, the hour in which our country is going to attack Iraq. The American people need to be speaking with one voice and supporting their soldiers. That's the most important thing - supporting the soldiers.
Bolduc tape 2 14:38:47 SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE HUGE DEMONSTRATIONS WE SAW NOT LONG AGO, UPWARDS OF A MILLION PEOPLE MARCHING IN THE STREETS OF NEW YORK AND OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD, DID THAT LEAD YOU ANYWHERE, DID IT MAKE YOU ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY SO MANY PEOPLE WERE DOING THIS?
14:39:10 It didn't make me ask that many questions because those questions are answered. They're answered every day by the president, by Secretary Powell, by Mr. Rumsfeld. And because the media has asked tough questions and the president has engaged the people, to me, these people were out demonstrating because they had a right to demonstrate, and thank god they have a right to demonstrate and thank God that they do have a right to demonstrate. But that didn't bother me as much. What did bother me was a couple of comments by a couple of demonstrators, who I don't think were old enough to know better, was their comments that it's immoral to be a soldier. And I disagree with that. American sons and daughters are out there serving. It's not immoral to be a soldier. It's not immoral to be a police officer or a fireman. It's not immoral to do your country's business. You know, the US in my opinion is the greatest country in the world. And we may not do everything perfectly but in the final analysis we get it just about right. And it's all about freedom and it's all about justice and liberty and - you do something wrong, you get it right. This is a fallible business because it's run by people but I believe that the United States, because of the way it sees such issues larger than themselves, that in the final analysis we always do the right thing. Unfortunately, going to war is never comfortable, nor should it be. I think once it gets comfortable, we're on the wrong path. It's a deliberate process of very tough decisions. The toughest one is when that soldier has to cross that line of departure and move out. Because all he has in the back of his head is what he believes in, all he has left and right is the people that he loves - his fellow soldiers - and that's what carries the day for him. And Americans have to understand what carries the day for that soldier is their support back here.
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If you were watching New Hampshire Public Television sunday night, you may have seen public television's special reports on the War on Iraq.
You also may have seen the documentary on a different kind of war: Domestic Violence.
Director Frederick Weissman presented a three hour film on the cycle of violence that is rarely seen. Part one takes place primarily in a domestic violence shelter.
There are shelters like it all over the country.
"A Safe Place" is one of those shelters here in New Hampshire.
Celene Ramadan sits down with some of the people from A Safe Place to talk about the realities of domestic violence.
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Celene - So, why did - all of you why did you come to a safe place?
Kathy - Well, being a survivor of domestic violence and also a woman of faith I just really experienced a calling. God did not allow me to survive my incidence with domestic violence and not do something with it. I really felt that it was necessary for me to give hope to other victims or survivors of domestic violence because I knew what it was like to have that - I knew what it was like to be alone.
Oneta - I became a part of Safe Place because I used to also be abused. I was involved in a relationship and he almost killed me and I'm not the typical person that people would assume would be physically abused. I was vice president of a company, I had my own business and after I was able to survive the situation and walked away from it and had help from my family and friends it was always in the back of my mind that if ever I was in a position to help to stop this violence that I needed to do something about it.
Lisa I came in as a service utilizer. It was such a profound experience for me. It was the first time that I really felt like I had some value as a person. And the minute I walked through those doors, I could feel it. I knew that this was going to be a life changing experience for me. I felt like I didn't need to explain how I was feeling. People just understood. And sometimes I didn't have to say anything we would be silent and that would be okay with them.
Celene What is something about domestic violence that you think people would find surprising?
Oneta I think for me, it was that I couldn't believe it was me. I was just like a woman like me, I had money I had a wonderful career - I didn't grow up with this I grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood I wasn't typical of my of people that were in my situation. But it sneaks up on you. - It becomes a cycle and then the next relationship. You think you beat that relationship and the next is well, "he pushed me a little bit and it doesn't mean anything" and it ended up where I was in bed and he was cutting me with a knife and he's choking me to death so um, he said that was the last day that I was going to live and I had to think about my family which got me through it.
Celene What is it like for a victim to come to a place like A Safe Place or a shelter?
Deanna I could only imagine that you would feel frightened you would hope that none of your friends know where you're going and what you're doing um I think it takes great courage for a woman to finally say I'm leaving I'm going to go get shelter.
Kathy The reason I left in the first place is that I had been beaten severely for a second time and I just my parents had always said to me in the past don't ever marry him - he's going to end up beating you. He had, he was trying to kill me that night - he whispered in my ear that he was going to do the same thing to my eighteen month daughter and that we'd both disappear and nobody'd care. At that point, I just decided 'No, I want to live'. And so it was just the determination that I didn't want to be another number I didn't want to be another statistic. And that not even for myself but for my daughter - she deserves a better life than that.
Celene There's an awful lot of statistics about domestic violence - is there a danger in quantifying - does something get lost in the numbers?
Patricia You know, I think every time we read numbers in the newspaper and that we read numbers on the television, we're such an information society that it's really easy to say "Oh wow" and then we go on doing the dishes or whatever we were doing and I think that what's interesting is the stories, the individuals and the lives behind the numbers. Kathy has a really interesting statistic in her office that says during the whole period of the vietnam war 58,000 american lives were lost. During that same time -
Kathy - 48,000 women were killed due to domestic violence in the United States alone.
Pat - Same time period and you know that's a horrific figure. I think we're so - we're almost numbed by numbers in this country.
Kathy - And if I could add something to that the other thing that statistics just never convey is really the utter horror of the experience of being in a domestic violence situation - they don't convey the feeling of having to look over your shoulder all the time because you know that guy is somewhere out there waiting to hunt you down.
Celene What's the biggest challenge as individuals and as organization in dealing with victims or dealing with abuse?
Pat It's very difficult for people to for women to come to a place where they can ask for help. And then begin to tell their story.
Kathy So many people say to me 'isn' t it so hard hearing everybody's story day in day out you know, don't you experience a burnout type situation. And for me it is just wonderful to come to work everyday and say 'it's not much but I'm doing my little bit everyday to help somebody else escape the reality of domestic violence. This was kind of my way of thumbing my nose at my ex-husband. This gives me some power back! You know, power that I just didn't have at all.
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 3/24/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 18:00 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, we begin with the war in Iraq. As the war against Iraq unfolds before our eyes, audiences around the world have been taken to the frontlines while remaining in their living rooms. For many of our young people, this is a time of discovery, fear and discussion. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a high school classroom to see how a social studies teacher and his students there are viewing the war and what they are thinking as they watch. Last week, two days before the first shots were fired in Iraq, a decorated soldier from New Hampshire visited the state. Major Donald Bolduc, originally from Laconia, now serves as Aide de camp to the Secretary of the Army. He enlisted in the United States Army in 1981 and has served all over the globe. He spoke on a variety of topics with Richard Ager, including how the army has changed over the past two decades.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Phil Vaughn, Richard Ager NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Terry Dostie\Teacher, Somersworth HS, Dianne Brown\Student, Brian Dicicco\Student, Denis Messier\Student, Megan DuBois\Student, Major Donald Bolduc\Aide de Camp, Sec of the Army
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 3/24/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 18:00 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, we begin with the war in Iraq. As the war against Iraq unfolds before our eyes, audiences around the world have been taken to the frontlines while remaining in their living rooms. For many of our young people, this is a time of discovery, fear and discussion. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a high school classroom to see how a social studies teacher and his students there are viewing the war and what they are thinking as they watch. Last week, two days before the first shots were fired in Iraq, a decorated soldier from New Hampshire visited the state. Major Donald Bolduc, originally from Laconia, now serves as Aide de camp to the Secretary of the Army. He enlisted in the United States Army in 1981 and has served all over the globe. He spoke on a variety of topics with Richard Ager, including how the army has changed over the past two decades.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Phil Vaughn, Richard Ager NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Terry Dostie\Teacher, Somersworth HS, Dianne Brown\Student, Brian Dicicco\Student, Denis Messier\Student, Megan DuBois\Student, Major Donald Bolduc\Aide de Camp, Sec of the Army
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 3/24/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 7:00 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, we turn to a documentary on domestic violence. Director Frederick Weissman presented a three hour film on the cycle of violence that is rarely seen. Part one takes place primarily in a domestic violence shelter. There are shelters like it all over the country. "A Safe Place" is one of those shelters here in New Hampshire. Celene Ramadan sits down with some of the people from A Safe Place to talk about the realities of domestic violence.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Celene Ramadan NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Kathy Jones\Community Services Advocate, Oneta Bobbette\Board of Directors, Lisa LeBlanc\DV Program Specialist, Deanna Gallant\Office/Finance Manager, Patricia Spiller\Executive Director
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 3/24/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 7:00 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, we turn to a documentary on domestic violence. Director Frederick Weissman presented a three hour film on the cycle of violence that is rarely seen. Part one takes place primarily in a domestic violence shelter. There are shelters like it all over the country. "A Safe Place" is one of those shelters here in New Hampshire. Celene Ramadan sits down with some of the people from A Safe Place to talk about the realities of domestic violence.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Celene Ramadan NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Kathy Jones\Community Services Advocate, Oneta Bobbette\Board of Directors, Lisa LeBlanc\DV Program Specialist, Deanna Gallant\Office/Finance Manager, Patricia Spiller\Executive Director
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